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An important reminder...

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 9:43 AM by iLantiis:iconilantiis:


Since the last rant didn't help anyone understand the consequences of their actions...



I was very serious when I said I would not play games anymore. Again, in just the last few days, we have had an absurd amount of current members as well as potential members harass not just our admin team but random members of this group because they are mad about our rules, deviantART rules, US law, or something even more stupid.

I hate writing these blogs because this is supposed to be a positive group intended to help people. However, it is very difficult for me and the entire admin team (and now unfortunately a group of random members) to be positive or to simply operate and help people when we are being so blatantly attacked and harassed.

So, the bottom line is this:
If I or the Review Team tells you to do something, do it or stop complaining. If I or the Review Team point out and explain to you that your actions are rude and then tell you why they are rude, don't throw a massive tantrum about how elitist and terrible we are. If you do, we will block you, remove your wish, and if necessary, report you to deviantART.

Some specifics.


Features

Features are done to benefit those members being featured. Those admins who feature deviants spend upwards of 25 to 30 minutes per gallery looking at all the available art and choosing what they feel is the best quality art each person has to represent them in the feature. So features containing several deviants and their works take an hour or more to put together, and that does not count the editing of the code, having the admin team help review for spelling and grammar, etc.

Stalking, harassing, flaming, etc the admin who posts the feature because you feel they are choosing the mediocre or worst works is not acceptable. When that admin chooses to not start a war and instead requests the help of the Review Team who comes in and tells you that you have been rude and that you need to send the group a note with your complaint instead of making a public spectacle of a blog that is not only featuring YOU and intended to help YOU and others, it is NOT OKAY to start a personal war with nearly every admin, make baseless accusations, and then start flaming members and telling them how terrible we are.

That is exactly how someone will get instantly blocked from this group and reported to deviantART.


Art Theft

I and the whole artistic world understands that stock can be expensive and that you can't always find what you need for free. We all also understand that sometimes you forget to credit your sources. However, we are a community group. Therefore, we must make sure that we do not break or otherwise bend the rules of the community in which we serve. If you intend to break deviantART rules, and by proxy US copyright laws, then don't try to join our group if you have no intention of stopping or fixing the issues in your gallery.

Theft is never okay: be it of intellectual property like art or physical property like a car. I would not be okay if someone used any of my photography in their works without my permission, even if they weren't getting paid for it - they still stole them. They are my property and I did the work. In the same way, it wouldn't be okay for me to steal a car and gasoline because I wasn't making a profit and just didn't have the money to buy the car or the gas.

The law is the law. Follow it or be punished by it. deviantART is in the USA. Therefore, deviantART is required to abide by all US laws, to include those on copyright. By using deviantART, you have agreed to follow those laws. Most artists (as is my experience), will allow use of some of their art if you simply do them the favor of asking. It all boils down to respect. Respect of the artists. Respect of this websites policies. Respect of the law. And respect of the art industry.

With that said, do not disrespect me, my team, this group or this group's members for choosing to follow this websites policies and the law. That is a recipe for instant banning and we will report your whole gallery to deviantART. And you as well if you decide to start harassing us for following the law and deviantART policy.


The Review Team

The Review Team now has their own account so they can remain anonymous due to the threats, harassment, spamming, flaming, cursing, name-calling, callouts, etc that have happened over the last month towards admins who are trying to help people and follow the law and deviantART policy. Do not assume you know who is on the Review Team. You don't. Harassing anyone and everyone possible just to try and get the last word in with someone on the Review Team is pointless and idiotic. No one appreciates that type of behavior. And it is that type of behavior that has made a special account to protect the identities of all the Reviewers necessary. Mess with the Review Team, and you will be blocked immediately - not just from that account but also from this group. Start harassing random people to try and find out who is part of the Review Team, and you will be reported to deviantART.


I hate being the bad guy.

I hate writing these blogs.

But what I hate more is watching some fabulous people try and help someone only to be threatened, harassed, flamed, cursed at, etc. And even worse is when people who have NOTHING to do with any of it get caught in the crossfire because of the tantrum of one absurd person.

It will not be tolerated. So if you know someone who is in review or who has an issue with us, please take a moment to help them by reminding them that due to several dozen very bad eggs, threats, and harassment of regular members that the admin team and Review Team are no longer giving out second chances. One bad behavior will result in a permanent ban from this group. I just can't have this going on anymore.



Lantiis

iLantiis

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Odoms-Spire Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How cruel can people be?! Wow! Its actually very shocking... Greed seems to be the worst deadliest sin on here... how sad. This whole thing made me think of a movie quote and I don't mean any bad feelings or anything, but this whole situation reminded me of this:
Blazing Saddles (1974) - Jim: 'You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.'
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CelticStrm-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a term for people like that. I call them Fuzzy Headed Nerf Herders, mostly because calling them anything else would be impolite. That, and I'm a Star Wars nerd. :D Don't worry! Things get better! Hot water tanks magically show up the day you're about to start ranting and screaming like a three year old in a tantrum. :D lol
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SamanthaArnold Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Grrr.... That's not nice of them. I understand why you're banning them. If you know if I ever did anything rude or offending, please let me know.
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:huggle: I don't think we have anything to worry about with you XD
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SamanthaArnold Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww yay! :hug:
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LydiaRhianne Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Man, it was bad enough when the first journal came out about this sort of thing, but now a second?! :no: I've dealt with some stupid people cussing me out before here on dA, but I can't imagine death threats - it's so ridiculous and infuriating at the same time. Next time you need new admins, I'm happy to join and help out with this kind of crap - I think I'm pretty decent at politely dealing with crazy people. This group is amazing and nobody (on or off the internet) deserves to be treated that way.
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, we were pretty upset by it and the fact that we needed to set up a separate account for our admins to contact people with so they wouldn't get harassed was a sad day indeed.
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LydiaRhianne Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
That is very sad... But at least the crazies are a minority! :) There are way more people that appreciate what the group does - just gotta focus on the positive, I guess! :love:
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, thank goodness they are a minority!!! :la:
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faerismoka Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, I hope the people flaming just calm their nuts.
And thanks for being such a great group1 I absolutely love Thursday Greets, helps me to find some new deviants to greet and know about. :)
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:iconilantiis:
iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :love:
We love what we do. There are just some people that are making our heads hurt (alot)
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AngelheartTheWarrior Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's just sad, how you've had to say this twice now. It seems that some people just don't know the meaning of the word "no".
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
sadly
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AngelheartTheWarrior Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup.
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20Tourniquet02 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Why do people keep on forgetting?
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
They "forget" because they don't read.
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20Tourniquet02 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
True that!:)
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:iconsavagefrog:
SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
BTW: WJ was completed by the group mascot
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20Tourniquet02 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
I read it~!:la:
Amazing!:clap:
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:iconsavagefrog:
SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
yup!
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20Tourniquet02 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
:)
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DiscordsDestiny Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
To say that this has shocked me to the point of near stupidity is an understatement. Who do these people think they are to take advantage of this group like this? It's enraging...!
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:iconsavagefrog:
SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
We just block them now
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ethereal-dancer Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm sorry you guys!! Thanks so much for all the hard work that you put into this group!! It's been a real blessing to me!!! :tighthug:
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww~
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kiyo-ya-maro Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It is seriously sad that people go to such lengths and are just amazing and full of so much love for this community and then they get so much disrespect from unthankful people. They really don't deserve that and even more so a big thank you for there work in the community. so from me to every member of the dA WishingWell: THANKS!!!
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Your welcome again. ^^
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
lol the last time I saw a journal like this here, I said; " if a person is rude/difficult= instablock".

It's sad that it has to be like that, and no one wants to have to do things this way, but I've began to realize that there are so many unreasonable people on the internet x_X.


I hope people listen to this blog.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Instablock is how it might be for now on. Anonymity makes people stupid. :/ (me too)
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Oh, it totally does. You should see the random Notes I get :XD:

Good luck you guys
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I demand to know this story NOW. XD No exceptions Koji <.<

Thanks
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
no story, I just get tons of nutty Notes; from people who feel they can Note me 10 times for whatever thought they have in their head, to people begging me for a commission for 50 points ( like, what is that, 50 cents usd?) to people asking; " I want to be your friend, can you talk to me?", then sending me a chastising note when I ignore them, people asking me for photos of what I look like..etc etc etc

it gets worse the more watchers one gets lol.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
WTF?! >.> Hell, if I commissioned you I'd need like $75-250 right? (somehow I'm not surprised; P.S. it's actually 63 cents *facepalm* )

I imagine you as kanda so I'm not gonna destroy that image. XD (blame the icon)
Just say that you're a being of light & if anyone were to see a picture of you, they'd burst into flames due to your ungodly beauty. XD
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
OMG you have it exactly right! I look like a cross between my Kanda pic/ ball of energy 8D

lol My commissions start at $120. When I link people who offer me a handful of points to my commission info ( which is on my page, but they don't look, so they send me Notes) they call me a snot.

I'm no stranger to weird Notes and people on Deviantart :XD:
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I just imagined Yoh's ghost buddy from Shaman King. XD

I WAS CLOSE! XD (it's like WTF would you want to spend so much time on something that you aren't even being paid for properly? :/ )

Me neither sadly
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James--Steele Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The sad part was that we didn't insta-block him. We gave him a few chances, but he not only blew them all, he ridiculed me (and other admins), harassed members, and flamed Infinite-Heart's stamp. :cry:
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I'm not sure what the stamp was, but yeah, that is pretty sad.

I don't really understand what gives people such a sense of entitlement. It's so crazy D:
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013   General Artist
:huggle:

I really hope people read this!
It's so sad and pathetic that people don't know how to show kindness or appreciation.
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:iconilantiis:
iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:huggle: I know. I can only hope this is the last one of these that I will ever write.
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013   General Artist
I can help you there. :giggle:
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:love:
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Astrikos Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013   General Artist
:heart: :tighthug:
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Brian-B-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
This is one of the best run ,compassionate and busiest Groups that I know of:nod::clap:

I am in Awe of just how much stuff you guys put out:faint:

As a Founder of two groups I do not Tolerate any crap whatsoever and you should report all incidents to DA:-X

They don't want this garbage on here any more than you do and when it gets to the point that it has,then you have to put them behind you and move on
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
NO CRAP! *grabs a picket sign & chants it in a circle* XD

Aww~
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Brian-B-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Go Get-um

You Go Girl!!!
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:iconsavagefrog:
SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
XD
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psto1464 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That kind of behavour is disgusting. I dont understand how people can do that, attack people. Its just mean, I hope they take the hint and leave the review team be.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
They better leave our other members alone as well (we've received reports of members being harassed by rejected deviants)
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psto1464 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, some people's cruelty. Its all very sad, I hope this wakes them up. Your group is doing good stuff for devianart, and the people part of it to.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks & I hope it does too
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